flowersforjack ([info]flowersforjack) wrote,
@ 2006-02-12 22:24:00
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Wow Jack, just wow...
Mr. Thompson,

First off, my name is Alyson Burch and I'm the cofounder of
'Flowers for Jack'. I would also like to state that my partner
(George) and I have no affiliation what-so-ever with Take Two or
Joystiq. George and I take full responsibility. Also, I emailed this
to you a few days ago and never received a response. My partner,
George, gave me your email so I could do my half of the explaining.

Now that all the formal stuff is taken care of, let me explain how
and why this is, because, you deserve to know! Our original intent was
to apologize for all the heinous acts or fellow gamers have done and
to show you that gamers can be anybody and everybody. Hate mail only
causes more hate! So instead of taking the easy way and sending some
boring letter, we decided to put a little 'zest' in our creation. We
added beautiful flowers of all colors to prove an act of non-violence,
and just because your views are unpopular, doesn't mean we should be
belligerent and cruel. I, personally, would like to talk to you some
time just to hear how your ideas work (just a fascination of mine as a
curious mind) and converse on my views. But, our point is not to make
you mad, but to get your attention. I mean this in all sincerity. I
admire how you stick to your beliefs, however, being stubborn and
sometimes arrogant is a serious downfall in winning people over. Yes,
I agree that minors shouldn't have access to rated R movies, M rated
games and graphic novels, but to damn the whole industry? Thats going
a bit to the extreme, no? Understand where we are coming from. I might
not be very old, but I know my fair share of strife (in the form of
rods holding my left leg together, thank the Army^^) and I've seen a
lot, too. I'm going to keep this brief so I don't take too much more
of your time. Please, don't just disregard us!


-SPC Alyson L Burch


In response, he wrote....


----- Response Message -----
To: "alyson burch" <intergral810@mac.com>
From:
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Flowers for Jack Thompson- Why didn't I get a response?...


not interested. email me again and you'll regret it


----- Original Message -----
To: "alyson burch" <intergral810@mac.com>
From:
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Flowers for Jack Thompson- Why didn't I get a response?...


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[info]aresef
2006-02-13 03:29 am UTC (link)
Welcome to Jack's world, where he's always right, and if he's ever wrong, he'll sue you.

Seriously, whenever has he answered a single well-thought-out email with something other than an ignorant one-line dismissal?

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:35 am UTC

[info]snakemeister
2006-02-13 03:30 am UTC (link)
Oh snap, regret? That's one item of baggage I don't think you want to be carrying >_>

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snakemeister, 2006-02-13 03:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:57 am UTC

[info]kawaiikingyo
2006-02-13 03:37 am UTC (link)
That earns a fatty 'wtf?' from me. Somebody's just a tad bitter, eh?

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:58 am UTC
Contact authorities?
[info]aitikinkyst
2006-02-13 03:39 am UTC (link)
Someone's threatening you through email. It might be possible to make a case out of this. Just a thought.

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Re: Contact authorities? - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:59 am UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]dkh, 2006-02-13 05:25 am UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:12 pm UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]dkh, 2006-02-13 06:49 pm UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]oldmankeebler, 2006-02-13 09:00 pm UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-14 04:18 am UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]oldmankeebler, 2006-02-14 01:56 pm UTC
Re: Contact authorities? - [info]dkh, 2006-02-14 05:14 pm UTC

[info]zebraic
2006-02-13 03:45 am UTC (link)
That's totally the difference between him and me. When I threaten members of our armed forces, I use capital letters.

Seriously, he's the one all "Gamers are immature and twitchy" when we're the ones who are unsuccessfully trying to open dialogue.

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:02 am UTC

[info]nathan_ritz
2006-02-13 03:59 am UTC (link)
Wow... considering previous responses to other emails sent out, I guess this isn't too surprising. A threat is a threat though. Too bad following up on it would probably take up way to much time/money :(

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nathan_ritz, 2006-02-13 04:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:18 am UTC

[info]raisedbymoogles
2006-02-13 04:11 am UTC (link)
Someone needs to drop that man into a vat full of kittens.

Just think of it. He will be surrounded by fuzzy cute and it will melt his cold, twisted heart. ^_^

...and then he'll suffocate.

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nathan_ritz, 2006-02-13 04:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aitikinkyst, 2006-02-13 04:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]raisedbymoogles, 2006-02-13 04:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]raisedbymoogles, 2006-02-13 04:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 05:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_thriller, 2006-02-13 09:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]raisedbymoogles, 2006-02-13 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dkh, 2006-02-13 05:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]raisedbymoogles, 2006-02-13 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dkh, 2006-02-13 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]raisedbymoogles, 2006-02-13 10:24 pm UTC

[info]ubcs_dahzaster
2006-02-13 04:28 am UTC (link)
i know one good thing that will have come from all this. whenever jack sees beautiful flowers, he will think fondly of pixelantes everywhere.

...or he'll feel a large amount of anger and frustration, thus ruining a lovely moment. it's a win either way.

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aitikinkyst, 2006-02-13 04:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ubcs_dahzaster, 2006-02-13 06:44 am UTC

[info]lyme
2006-02-13 04:51 am UTC (link)
His response is completely unsurprising. But just think, it's just more proof that he's a raving loony and it makes the rest of us just look that much better. We're the violent ones, but he can't even respond with civility.

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:57 am UTC

[info]lunalil
2006-02-13 05:33 am UTC (link)
That's mature!

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(no subject) - [info]lunalil, 2006-02-13 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:56 pm UTC

[info]ianc14
2006-02-13 10:12 am UTC (link)
Sheesh Jack - Reallll mature.

Expect more spam at your address too btw.

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:05 pm UTC

[info]wulingyi
2006-02-13 11:34 am UTC (link)
This fellow is amazing. He could be working on pro bono cases in his free time, not being immature like this..

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 03:59 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-02-13 12:57 pm UTC (link)
Jack doesn't take us seriously. We're in strong contrast to his general view on gamers. He doesn't believe we exist. I mean: a regular guy who happens to be a conversative, non-violent gamer? c'mon, next thing you tell me the Toothfairy exists! (/sarcasm)
We should not try to direct our attention to him, or try to get his, instead we must make our case clear to the general public. To me that's games don't create killers. If anything, violent games keep potential killers off the streets and it's the parent's responsibility if minors play GTA.

Jack, since you ignore us, I think it's safe to say that you should choke in your own shit. It's my opinion, you can't sue me for what I think.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-02-13 01:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:01 pm UTC
sqeak!!! - (Anonymous), 2006-02-19 04:34 pm UTC

[info]ski309
2006-02-13 01:53 pm UTC (link)
he sure does love those vague threats

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-13 04:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ski309, 2006-02-13 04:07 pm UTC

[info]sephidarshu
2006-02-13 04:58 pm UTC (link)
He makes me sad. People this messed up shouldn't be allowed to exist. Oh well, at least his credibility is being destroyed.

Good job!

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-14 04:46 am UTC

[info]pahsons
2006-02-13 05:10 pm UTC (link)
I need to be threatened!

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[info]xd_melchior
2006-02-13 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Firstly, you're amazing. This is an awesome idea and even if Jack never changes his mind, at least we always know that there were gamers that tried.

Secondly, at least Jack will always be good for a laugh. email me again and you'll regret it? That's beyond hilarious! Filing a complaint over someone sending him flowers puts him right up there with that guy that filed a complaint over someone sending a five-figure donation check in his name. Oh wait, Jack did that one, too. ;D

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-14 04:54 am UTC

[info]dividebydesu
2006-02-13 05:48 pm UTC (link)
I wish I had seen this sooner I'd have been Connecticut #2 =)

I've followed his actions since the PA incident and am a frequent reader on Gamepolitics. It strikes me that he can hold a civil conversation to GP in their podcast a few months back yet act like an asshole to everyone else.

Reading the letters and reponses I cannot say I'm surprised by his actions. He seems to believe that he is on a holy crusade between him and Rockstar and that by eliminating them he will gain the approval of all and be some sort of savior. The thing is, Take-Two/Rockstar is not the only company that makes questionable content games, id software is still out there, 3DRealms to some extent, and even if all of them were to die, more companies would replace them. Jack needs to realize that these kinds of companies are a dime a dozen, much like the workforce, and even himself. If he went away tomorrow, another crackerjack would replace his voice. His refusing to read the letter is just him refusing to accept his complete defeat, that all gamers are in fact normal everyday taxpaying citizens capable of doing normal everyday things. Because a couple psycologicaly messed up kids kill some people, all gamers then are considered murderers. His anology of him being David and the video game industry being Goliath is more like him being the Government and us being "terrorists" or "communists".

The other thing is, I believe he does this thing on purpose, because negative or not, he thrives on the attention he recieves from GP, PN, and other sites devoted to news about him. He was kicked off the Alabama case because he was spamming the media to cover his battle, in order to gain status. Your campaign had meaning, but unless you're CNN or MSNBC, sadly he doesn't listen to you, especially since we're gamers, after all, all we do is sit and play games, which is funny, because my 40 hours a week working at Red Robin keeps me from playing much more than PSP games.

"omgz puzzle bobble might make me drop colored balls on people!!11!"

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(no subject) - [info]spiritoftherain, 2006-02-15 03:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eatroflwaffles, 2007-03-20 11:36 pm UTC

wtfunkymonkey
2006-02-13 06:17 pm UTC (link)
This only confirms what we already knew; Jack Thompson is a pompous jackass who has no interest in solving anybody's problems, only making money from them.
Congratulations guys, you've officially proven that you (we) are the bigger man.


and I use the term 'man' loosely ;-P

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-14 04:59 am UTC

[info]cliphead
2006-02-13 10:19 pm UTC (link)
This guy's responses are just a marginal step up from responding with "omg stfu lol" So didja email him again, and if so, do you regret it?

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(no subject) - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-14 05:03 am UTC
Media
[info]aitikinkyst
2006-02-14 06:13 am UTC (link)
Ok, I may sound like I'm beating a dead horse here (poor horsey, I'm sorry!) but we really just need to get media coverage on this stuff. I'm not saying you two need to do more, you've done so much already. I'm saying the rest of us lazy bums who just donated money need to email every major news organization we can find. And when I say the rest of us I mean ALL of us. If they receive massive amounts of emails and whatnot from numerous people, they will be MUCH more likely to publish something than if they get an email from one individual at the head of an event. I have taken the liberty of finding links for a number of major media companies and posted them below:

ABC's contact list:
http://abcnews.go.com/Reference/story?id=54216

NBC's contact list:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/

CBS's website (hit contact us at the very bottom):
http://www.cbsnews.com/

For ABC I'd say 20/20 would be a good bet as well as their general news, MSNBC I don't know very well so someone else might want to direct that idea, and CBS (like I need to say it) should be 60 Minutes and regular news.

Now get flooding!

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Re: Media - [info]flowersforjack, 2006-02-14 06:40 am UTC
Re: Media - [info]so_sorry810, 2006-02-14 05:25 pm UTC
Re: Media - [info]semperar, 2006-02-14 07:28 pm UTC

[info]puffin_essence
2006-02-15 12:09 am UTC (link)
Well, it helps to remember this: you can't spell jackass without Jack...

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Wow. Charming.
[info]caredhel
2006-02-15 11:24 am UTC (link)
...and actually, the combination of that and your LJ pic (is that you?) arouses the most violent and protective of my mothering instincts. I'm in my 30s, so those are currently kicking into overdrive.

Some people just don't get it.

Videogames don't make me feel like committing acts of violence.

Intolerant people like THIS guy, on the other hand, arouse certain baser human urges.

Oh... and happy Valentine's day to a great couple (if you are). Keep at it.

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Re: Wow. Charming. - [info]semperar, 2006-02-15 02:43 pm UTC
Re: Wow. Charming. - [info]spiritoftherain, 2006-02-15 03:26 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-02-15 11:34 pm UTC (link)
You know the fact that jack thompson is still alive, proves that he is wrong.

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[info]eatroflwaffles
2007-03-20 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Heh. I bet he thought you might be coming onto him with all the flowers. I think he might've got the wrong idea.

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